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Kelly Site Moderator


Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: A quick introduction |
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Hello everyone! My name is Kelly and I run Euro Rock Promotions/Radio. We're a promotions company in the US who have been working closely with Silentivm and Dynamic Arts to help get this great band more exposure.
I will now be handling the Silentivm street team as well so wanted to put a little something here so you all know who it is that's giving you tasks.
As I said my name is Kelly, I'm 30 years old and live in Texas in the US, just outside of Dallas. Music has always been a huge part of my life and a few years ago I discovered several bands in Finland and thought "Now HERE is the kind of music I've been looking for!"
That grew into a weekly internet radio show that focuses only on European/Scandinavian rock and metal and from there into the promotions side of things.
And promotions is where you all come in as well! Without word of mouth from their fans bands would struggle to make it big. So keep an eye on the street team section of the forums and you'll be seeing suggestions on ways to promote, set tasks, banners and graphics you can use, and much more.
This is your team too so don't hesitate to throw out some suggestions on what to do to make the team better or tell us about something you did. We're all in this together! |
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Dark Soul Of Noodle AutumnHeart

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 14 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: A quick introduction |
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| Kelly wrote: |
And promotions is where you all come in as well! Without word of mouth from their fans bands would struggle to make it big. |
Actually, it's mostly a band's hard work, dedication, touring other countires as well as their own and producing good music that lots of people will like and buy is what makes a band as big as they can be. Also a nice budget with advertising using contacts in well placed areas help a lot.
Street teamers only really start to have a real effect once the band starts to get some sort of a reputation.
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| This is your team too so don't hesitate to throw out some suggestions on what to do to make the team better or tell us about something you did. We're all in this together! |
It's Silentium's street team. Well, actually no, it's your team working on behalf of the band.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the whole thing is a bad thing, I just think bands kind of overhype what a street team is all about. I suppose they're good when you haven't got much of a budget to work with, but it's a slow form of promotion. And there are more effective ways of promotion if you're willing to invest, travel and get to know some contacts in the industry.
Sorry if this sounded negative, I was just giving some of my thoughts, opinions and my advice. |
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astriapo AutumnHeart

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Baltimore, md. USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: Street teams... |
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Hmm... I think it could work, but you need a lot of recruits. Word of mouth is very powerful. I think a person is more likely to listen if a fan is promoting it. It shows dedication. Sometimes when a band sinks everything they have into traveling and promoting they lose the music in the fame. It maybe a bit slower, but it is less stress on the band and gives the band more time to concentrate on the music.
-Astriapo
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blog.myspace.com/astriapo _________________ It isn't the trees that drown me in gloom, but the growth, underfoot. Such as life - pale, pointless and mediocre at best! |
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Dark Soul Of Noodle AutumnHeart

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 14 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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But I think people only listen properly to other people's recommendations if the band already has a good reputation. They're more likely to take the band seriously. I think the only times this wouldn't be the case is if a particular person was really into their music, loved it and wanted to know about more bands without them just letting themselves learn about a band through more commercial means, which is what I think the majority of people do anyway.
People tend not to think really. They like to go with the trend, which is the problem Silentium have if they want to be more successful. but if they're happy with how things are, then fair play to them, I suppose. I can't tell them what to do. I mean if they wanted to be bigger than they are now, they'd have done a lot more and become more successful. After all, they have been around for a while now, haven't they? |
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admin Site Admin

Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 144
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, Silentium has been here for a while and no, they are not satisfied where the band is at the moment.
Let me tell you something of the history of the band; Their first demotape was announced as a demo of the year in a Finnish top radio show. Guys didn't know the right people and nothing happened. They've had five different promotional offices and none of those had done shit, 'cos of their lack of knowing people. First record company Spike wanted to bring the guys forward, but the mother-label Spine didn't want to give the money for that. Thay just waited the band to pop up and do the job. So it's always not the effort of the band making the difference. It's knowing the right people.
Most of the people listen what the radio stations and other media give 'em, that's the fact. But that doesn't make SS any more useless. SS is trying to get more people to know the band. Give a flier to a hundred and you surely have at least few new listeners. Do it again and again and the word is out. It's not the most effective nor quickest method, but with dedicated people, it can be huge.
What's quick and effective way of promoting then? To get the chairman of SonyBMG like your band... But it doesn't make all the other methods useless.
"Doing more and becoming more successful" is an easy task to do, or is it? _________________ Get the latest news! Help SILENTIUM!
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Dark Soul Of Noodle AutumnHeart

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 14 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Yeah ok I see your point. And at no point did I say it's a bad thing, it obviously isn't.
It just disappoints me a little when it SEEMS like the street team is the biggest form of publicity Silentium is getting. And I apologise if I'm getting the wrong idea about this and in fact, the band are putting all their heart and soul into trying to make it work, taking risks and always trying to get their name and music out there and known to as many people as they possibly can. I just can't help feeling there's not a great deal being done to achieve that. Like I say, I apologise if I'm totally wrong about it though, I'd just love to see this band do far better than they are now |
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astriapo AutumnHeart

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Baltimore, md. USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: Music... |
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What really drives me crazy is how commercial radio is. You call and ask then to play a song from an artist and they won't. I understand if it is something that isn't released yet, but how do you know if people are going to like it if you don't give them a chance to hear it. Here in the states everything is money and who you know. EVERYTHING! And that sucks because people try so hard to make it.
Radio seems to stick to one play list and play it over and over again. Nothing new. I think it should be mandatory that they play songs from independent artists. At least once a week or something. I didn't find Silentium until I did a search on Amazon or something and received an email that said "users who purchased 'so and so' also purchased Silentium.
It was chance. I have been hooked ever since.
This is also what got me started in listening to goth music like Nightwish, Epica and Within Temptation. It opened up a whole new sound of music to me. I think if something like that was available on the radio (of course they don't know what people like or listen to) but just to get it out there, and not just this band, but other bands. It would be a chance the band and listeners need.
Sorry for the rant! _________________ It isn't the trees that drown me in gloom, but the growth, underfoot. Such as life - pale, pointless and mediocre at best! |
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astriapo AutumnHeart

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Baltimore, md. USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: I think we may have gotten off topic. |
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I think we may have gotten off topic.
With all our rants... heh..
And to change the mood...
I'm listening to "An American Prayer" by The Doors.
Monolith of extreme prose, proper and to the point.
"Indian, Indian what did you die for?"
It is easy to channel dead spirits, when the wind is right.
Lost in thought, lost in smoke and lost in life.
This road is a long, winding path of painful memories.
Floating in an ocean of bleak realism,
smacked in the face with truth and wisdom,
and not understanding any of it.
"Indian says nothing at all."
Through all the chanting, mantra's of sophisticated mojo
Is the guise of freedom, cloaked in aspiration -
celebrated by desperation.
"Awake. Shake dreams from your hair . . ."
And into twilight falls the biggest ego.
Desert dwellers and wood fairies cannot live
When childhood dreams are crushed in parental denial.
"Thank you, o lord, for the white blind light . . ."
So, summertime requiem is sleeping without dreaming.
Wiping away tears of misfortune or smiles of joy -
Only shows that under the skin we are the same.
"AWAKE!"
Give me your lament so that I may drown in pity.
Epiphanies in sorrowful songs wailing in banshee screeches of despair.
Take me to the netherlands and introduce me to the
demon deities, witch doctors and heretic children.
Maybe now the reflection in the mirror won't be so dark. _________________ It isn't the trees that drown me in gloom, but the growth, underfoot. Such as life - pale, pointless and mediocre at best! |
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Riinuska Member of Silence

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 159 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Dark Soul Of Noodle:
I have to tell you that your comment kinda pissed me off. "Would have done more and became more succesful"?!! Could you please be a bit more spesific? I would like to remind you that besides being musicians, we all have full-time day jobs or studies or some of us, like me and Matti, both! If spending a huge majority of one's freetime on the music while supporting her/himself financially (btw, you're welcome to come try out the finnish taxation as well as living costs) isn't contributing enough, I really can't understand what kind of a superhuman u are then. If you have had any dealings with the music industry you would know that things are far from being that simple.
Also, we are in no hurry. I think it's an asset for the band that its been a unit for that long, so if things do start to heat up, the situation won't be a huge strain on us like it would be for fresher relationships. We are like a family and function as such. If one day we did make it big, everybody would know that each and every one of us is in it for the music, not the money. Inside and out the band.
And what was said about being happy with the status quo.. Ofcourse we are happy and grateful that we are in a position where we get to write and record music, play gigs here and abroad and most importantly, have an outlet for all the stuff presented in the songs, lyrically as well as audially (?! shit, had no idea how to spell that..). But the ambition is always there.
At the present situation, the band is extremely happy of all the listeners we've reached this far, but strives for bigger accomplisments, ofcourse. Right now we are going to concentrate on the new album, making it the best one yet. I personally have not and will not be stressed out by the publicity issues, as I see it, it shouldn't be the bands problem at all. We play music, that's what we do. |
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Dark Soul Of Noodle AutumnHeart

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 14 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Riinuska wrote: |
Dark Soul Of Noodle:
I have to tell you that your comment kinda pissed me off. "Would have done more and became more succesful"?!! Could you please be a bit more spesific? I would like to remind you that besides being musicians, we all have full-time day jobs or studies or some of us, like me and Matti, both! If spending a huge majority of one's freetime on the music while supporting her/himself financially (btw, you're welcome to come try out the finnish taxation as well as living costs) isn't contributing enough, I really can't understand what kind of a superhuman u are then. If you have had any dealings with the music industry you would know that things are far from being that simple.
Also, we are in no hurry. I think it's an asset for the band that its been a unit for that long, so if things do start to heat up, the situation won't be a huge strain on us like it would be for fresher relationships. We are like a family and function as such. If one day we did make it big, everybody would know that each and every one of us is in it for the music, not the money. Inside and out the band.
And what was said about being happy with the status quo.. Ofcourse we are happy and grateful that we are in a position where we get to write and record music, play gigs here and abroad and most importantly, have an outlet for all the stuff presented in the songs, lyrically as well as audially (?! shit, had no idea how to spell that..). But the ambition is always there.
At the present situation, the band is extremely happy of all the listeners we've reached this far, but strives for bigger accomplisments, ofcourse. Right now we are going to concentrate on the new album, making it the best one yet. I personally have not and will not be stressed out by the publicity issues, as I see it, it shouldn't be the bands problem at all. We play music, that's what we do. |
If you're happy about where you are, fair enough. Can't really argue with that. Apologies if my comments pissed you off, I kinda get a little passionate about my music and like to see under-heard (which in my opinion, you are) bands do better, Silentium is no different to that. I wish you good luck with the new material and the album.
I'll cease to post in this thread now to avoid any more offence I may be causing.
I get too mouthy for my own good sometimes... |
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Riinuska Member of Silence

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 159 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Dark Soul of Noodle: Don't worry, no serious offence was taken I'm a pretty passionate person too and have quite the temper.. So I really didn't mean to scare you off or anything Besides, dialogue, even if it's a little heated is always good, right? We'll let the issues argue, not the people. -Riina |
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Mihzvol_Wuriar Lusticon


Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 475 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: |
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there is a point where you didn't said anything!!!
Here in Brazil, silentium got the same attention of the midia of any new band, but they didn't had that much attention of the public because of few people here knew then, i'm sure that a street team will work a lot over here, because we have a national release, a thing that is very hard here, and lot of people who tend to buy albuns, but they just need some kind of advice!!!
and trust me, if your band dont have a "very famous" member on it, is hard to get something over here, sometimes a special guest correct that
but i'm sure it's just a matter of time and patience till they got more known, and a street team will help a lot on situations like these!!! _________________
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